Body 'n Spirit Web Forums  

Go Back   Body 'n Spirit Web Forums > Books, Reading, and Movies > "Without Offense" by Dr. John Lund

 

CH3 - The Greatest Revelation: Reproving and increasing love

This is a discussion on CH3 - The Greatest Revelation: Reproving and increasing love within the "Without Offense" by Dr. John Lund forum, part of the Books, Reading, and Movies category; I loved this new understanding of this idea. I'd always used this as a reason that it was ok to ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 04-13-2007, 05:03 PM
Senior Member
 
Last Online: 02-03-2012 10:49 AM
Join Date: Jan 2007
Photo Gallery: 0
Blog Entries: 35
Posts: 1,128
Quotes: 5
Default CH3 - The Greatest Revelation: Reproving and increasing love

I loved this new understanding of this idea. I'd always used this as a reason that it was ok to be mad at my kids. While that is still the case (it is ok), using all the approaching skills before this one makes it so that that anger is very carefully controlled and the purpose of its use is NEVER to vent because the child has inconvienced me personally, but anger is used to make the problem the child has caused clear to the child so that he/she can learn from it. If we are "lovingly instructing" (persuasion) with this skill, our anger is selected to be the means by which the hearer will be blessed...as Dr. Lund says "preserve the self-worth and separate the issue or behavior from the worth of the soul"....which I think is another way in which we will be emulating our Father in Heaven.

I am studying the Old Testament right now and it is interesting to see the "anger" of the Lord. It doesn't seem like the God I know and love. But in understanding this "reproving betimes with..." concept, I think that God has selected anger as the means that will best bless the hearer. His anger will result in their change. While He is not forcing them into action, He is making it enticing to change their ways. He also blesses them unbelievably and they don't ever seem to get the clue that if they'll be righteous the blessings keep coming, but here is God showing them an increase of love after being sharp.

You know what...I just underlined that part above, because it helped me put two ideas together. Remember when I said that we're always persuading (the what) and that long-suffering and betimes are the when? The HOW are gentleness, meekness, love, kindness, knowledge, AND reproving. All are ways to persuade. We can CHOOSE to persuade with meekness or with reproof. I guess we form a bit of a measuring stick in seeing how often we use reproof as opposed to gentleness or knowledge. Each is in fact appropriate for different moments. I loved that in a different post Joanie talked about being sensitive to others feelings. When we ourselves have the Spirit with us, He can guide us in choosing the approach that will be most effective as a persuasion tool based on what we have understood or observer from the hearer. Dr. Lund: "When an individual is able to reprove or criticize without losing the Spirit, he or she is partaking of the divine nature, the attributes of Jesus, and becoming truly Christlike."
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-18-2007, 09:06 AM
Joanie's Avatar
Bookclub member
 
Last Online: 05-25-2007 02:10 PM
Join Date: Jan 2007
Photo Gallery: 0
Posts: 39
Quotes: 0
Default Re: Reproving and increasing love

Thank you for making that so concise and understandable. Having the Spirit plus the knowledge really are the keys aren't they? This is great stuff!!!
Reply With Quote
Reply

  Body 'n Spirit Web Forums > Books, Reading, and Movies > "Without Offense" by Dr. John Lund

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads for: CH3 - The Greatest Revelation: Reproving and increasing love
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I love today bookworm General Discussion 11 08-28-2007 06:36 PM
Mommies will love this one! smed Relationships 6 05-01-2007 08:02 AM
CH3 - The Greatest Revelation: Love unfeigned Joanie "Without Offense" by Dr. John Lund 7 04-19-2007 12:16 AM
The Stages of Love crazyK Relationships 9 03-22-2007 04:23 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:40 PM.

Portal Forums Blogs Photo Gallery Quotes Popular Tags RSS Feeds Today's New Users

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2
Copyright ©2007-2009 - BodynSpirit.net - All Right Reserved.